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demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't want it on my agenda now. it's here. >> demonstrators say working men and women are the subject of political retribution. >> retribution for standing up and fighting for working people. they want to us attack the different groups. they attack us. >> right to work legislation would outlaw the mandatory union due and membership as
demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution....
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in michigan we've had a statute for some time. we had some controversy and we're under the old statute now. this goes back to many years where we had emergency manager status. they can come in, work with the city and resolve the issues in a more efficient fashion than the traditional way. get to an emergency like this, the traditional way wasn't working. >> aren't you at that point? i mean the unemployment rate, of course, in october of '09 is 25.5. i imagine a lot of people were discouraged and left and that's the decline to 18.9 but that's more than twice the national average. around you at an emergency in detroit? >> detroit has been in crisis for a long time. i think we should always try to work with the locally elected leaders first. my goal is not to run any particular city, it's to be a supportive partner. we've worked hard to strive to do that. we achieved results but now we aren't seeing the progress and we need to push ahead and get it resolved and better services to detroiters. >> i look at it from afar, because i don't
in michigan we've had a statute for some time. we had some controversy and we're under the old statute now. this goes back to many years where we had emergency manager status. they can come in, work with the city and resolve the issues in a more efficient fashion than the traditional way. get to an emergency like this, the traditional way wasn't working. >> aren't you at that point? i mean the unemployment rate, of course, in october of '09 is 25.5. i imagine a lot of people were...
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what do you think the impact in michigan would be? >> i think the impact in michigan is going to be the same that we've seen in all of the other states that have passed this terrible legislation. and that is we're going to see wages decline. we're going to see good benefits decline. we're going to see workplaces become less safe. the fact is that this has not been good for economic growth in any of the states that have enacted right to work laws. they have unemployment rates that are as high or higher than michigan's. pushing right to work is the surest path to poverty that anybody could pursue here in michigan. >> there were some pretty big demonstrations last thursday at the state capitol to protest this. kind of reminisce sant of what we saw in wisconsin and ohio when those states voted on these union issues. what are you expecting tomorrow? what's your prediction? >> i think we're going to see thousands and thousands of people here in lansing who are protesting not just about the substance of this terrible legislation of so-called
what do you think the impact in michigan would be? >> i think the impact in michigan is going to be the same that we've seen in all of the other states that have passed this terrible legislation. and that is we're going to see wages decline. we're going to see good benefits decline. we're going to see workplaces become less safe. the fact is that this has not been good for economic growth in any of the states that have enacted right to work laws. they have unemployment rates that are as...
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i'm curious about the rank-and-file union members in michigan or the people in michigan, what are they thinking or saying about this battle? >> we've heard really from both sides. there's a group that support right to work that say they want more freedom from their unions but more accountability from their unions. right to work could give them that. the other side which is obviously the more loud voice right now of unions saying this will diminish their power and influence and hurt workers leading to fewer jobs, lower wages, and that sort of consequences. >> greta: would it be fair to say that the popularity of unions in michigans is split? >> i don't know if you could say it's split. i mean, obviously one side is louder than the other at this point. it's hard to tell. >> greta: indeed, we've seen the storming of your state capitol. that's been quite a sight which has certainly put a national spotlight on this. i don't know if it's something the unions and the governor want, but you sure got it. >> definitely. it looks like come tuesday that could be the same as well and if not possibl
i'm curious about the rank-and-file union members in michigan or the people in michigan, what are they thinking or saying about this battle? >> we've heard really from both sides. there's a group that support right to work that say they want more freedom from their unions but more accountability from their unions. right to work could give them that. the other side which is obviously the more loud voice right now of unions saying this will diminish their power and influence and hurt...
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on the moon, when you look at the united states, there's one thing that -- state that stands out is michigan surrounded by water, and there's salt mines. we have documents and documents in our family signed by madison and all the peopling and this river is very unique separating two countries in a very unique way, and what happened in the city, we talked about this, just the arsenal of democracy. i don't know if this country would have won world war ii without this city. >> i think that's true. >> when i talk about the specialness part, we're now defaulting in a way that there's a lot more things to be proud about, not the crime or any of this, but finding specialness in the wrong areas sometime i guess is what i'm saying. >> yeah -- >> the music is a whole other genera, you know, and being 61, i grew up in all of that, the prime wood stock, the whole thing, i mean, it was, like wonderful in the city, and so -- >> [inaudible] >> i have not read the book yet, but i'm anxious to read it. [laughter] >> yeah, thank you. something about the salt, because there's so much salt here, it created a po
on the moon, when you look at the united states, there's one thing that -- state that stands out is michigan surrounded by water, and there's salt mines. we have documents and documents in our family signed by madison and all the peopling and this river is very unique separating two countries in a very unique way, and what happened in the city, we talked about this, just the arsenal of democracy. i don't know if this country would have won world war ii without this city. >> i think that's...
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michigan's not a state! it's more of a dingle berry hanging off canada's -- (laughter). >> indiana's a great place to send jobs! it's got the weather of north dakota and the racial harmony of mississippi! (laughter) >> indiana didn't take michigan's jobs, all right? michael moore ate them! (laughter) >> jon: now that both indiana and michigan have the exact same right to work laws, though, how are you going to differentiate yourselves? >> right to work? jon, come on, that is so 11 months ago. indiana's latest pro-business measure is the workplace safety act. any business that relocates here gets to dump whatever they want wherever they want for free. lakes, rivers, wetlands. they take all factories toxic slurry. >> jon: you call that workplace safety act. >> studies show poisoning the environments cuts workplace beaver bites down to zero. no more raccoon maulings or slipping on the o *d toad on a factory floor. dow chemical is very interesting. >> that's no match for michigan's latest pro-business measure. w
michigan's not a state! it's more of a dingle berry hanging off canada's -- (laughter). >> indiana's a great place to send jobs! it's got the weather of north dakota and the racial harmony of mississippi! (laughter) >> indiana didn't take michigan's jobs, all right? michael moore ate them! (laughter) >> jon: now that both indiana and michigan have the exact same right to work laws, though, how are you going to differentiate yourselves? >> right to work? jon, come on,...
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it's the real reason he was invited to michigan. with time running out for a deal before the holidays, the president and now speaker john boehner met at the white house, the first face-to-face meeting between the two in nearly a month. the first one-on-one meeting between the two. aides refused to characterize the meeting saying, quote, we're not reading out can details but the lines of communication remain open. but we'll do it for him. this is the real start of the negotiations, folks. if this week goes bad, we shouldn't worry about a deal. the plan is to get something passed by friday, december 21st or even december 24th. and then the legislation has to be written by the 18th. and that means that obama and boehner must reach some framework of an agreement by december 14 or 15 if there's going to be a deal. what does that mean? lots of serious talks have to begin now. we can put the posturing finally aside. we've run out the clock on this posturing phase. >>> bob corker joined a growing number of republicans who argue that agreein
it's the real reason he was invited to michigan. with time running out for a deal before the holidays, the president and now speaker john boehner met at the white house, the first face-to-face meeting between the two in nearly a month. the first one-on-one meeting between the two. aides refused to characterize the meeting saying, quote, we're not reading out can details but the lines of communication remain open. but we'll do it for him. this is the real start of the negotiations, folks. if...
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in 1960, flint was michigan's second largest city 200,000 people. it also had a vibrant middle class, it's public school system was a model for the nation and that was due in large part to the strength of its labor unions and the large number of manufacturing workers living in flint. they took over a factory and they didn't leave until they reached a deal with management. workers occupied several general motor's plants. not for a day, a week but for month -- actually for longer than a month for 40-consecutive days and it worked. they got bargaining rights, and 40-hour workweek and a minimum wage. they had 100,000 people turned out in detroit to show their support for the striking workers in flint 100,000 people. and yesterday, 12,000 people turned out in lancing, michigan to protest against the state's new right to work law. it's a devastating blow to the heart of organized labor in this country, and perhaps no one knows more about than that that garl dean blankinship. >> my father called home one night, he was working on the second shift. he said w
in 1960, flint was michigan's second largest city 200,000 people. it also had a vibrant middle class, it's public school system was a model for the nation and that was due in large part to the strength of its labor unions and the large number of manufacturing workers living in flint. they took over a factory and they didn't leave until they reached a deal with management. workers occupied several general motor's plants. not for a day, a week but for month -- actually for longer than a month for...
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in michigan, this is the way we can be competitive. liste everyone talks about the great comeback in detroit in the auto sector, that's a mirage. michigan's in trouble, detroit is in trouble and this is how they compete on the national scale, ultimately, a global scale. >> neil: dagen? >> versignificant that this is happening and by the way, this is just the right to not have toay union dues i you don't want to belong to a union first and foremost. >> neil: and you got that. >> very significant that it's happening in the birthplace of the u.a.w. it could spread across the midwest if this gains momentum and if you look back. >> by the way those are not sunglass. >> i'm sorry. >> and what is he doing? > and i think he's a union buster. >> he's not nothing, not shouting. >> not him. >> and exactly. >>ut if you look back on the last decade at right to work states, you have faster economic growth, faster yroll growth, you have faster population growth. it works for those states. >> and dagen, it's no fantasy, inevada a right to work state,
in michigan, this is the way we can be competitive. liste everyone talks about the great comeback in detroit in the auto sector, that's a mirage. michigan's in trouble, detroit is in trouble and this is how they compete on the national scale, ultimately, a global scale. >> neil: dagen? >> versignificant that this is happening and by the way, this is just the right to not have toay union dues i you don't want to belong to a union first and foremost. >> neil: and you got that....
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called something like the secret history of the universe as revealed through occult science in detroit, michigan. i almost used that for my title. he ended up he and his entire family were brutally gruesomely murdered. they were be headed, his children were killed as well, and it was a big sensational story at the time. you can go through the free press archives and find all this coverage and it was never solved. at a certain point i realized it was not far from where i was living so i walked over to check it out and where his house was, so i filed that way and we're the enough, probably a year later there was another murder almost literally across the street. it was a drug thing and these kids were trying to -- their ridge two rival drug houses, they were trying -- these two teenagers were trying to scare off radicals and to do this they ended up killing and then dismembering this guy and scattering body parts around literally across the street from this other murder. again, that was history repeating itself in a way that i found fascinating. i went to the trial and i don't normally cover murde
called something like the secret history of the universe as revealed through occult science in detroit, michigan. i almost used that for my title. he ended up he and his entire family were brutally gruesomely murdered. they were be headed, his children were killed as well, and it was a big sensational story at the time. you can go through the free press archives and find all this coverage and it was never solved. at a certain point i realized it was not far from where i was living so i walked...
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>>> right now on andrea mitchell report, the president arriving in michigan today drumming up is the for his tax the rich plan, as his aides say he thinks he and john boehner will reach an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands. >> coming up, here congressman chris van holland, the top house democrat in these talks. >> along with bill daley, the former white house chief of staff who prided over the last round of budget negotiations. in the meantime, the anti-union fight, which is michigan. the heart and soul of the labor movement. after saying it was their best prank ever, are these crocodile tears? the aussie dj's are all apologies now that the nurse has tragically committed suicide. >> i mean, personally i'm -- >> the thought that we may have played a part in that is gut wrenching. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed
>>> right now on andrea mitchell report, the president arriving in michigan today drumming up is the for his tax the rich plan, as his aides say he thinks he and john boehner will reach an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands....
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we're joined by michigan senator rick jones. thanks for joining me, senator, do yoo think if they dot latest layoffs will it satisfy the milestones the city needs in order to get more state aid? >> it is gooddstart and but not enough. we have a city council totally dysfunctional. recently mayor bing asked them to come in, they said we're on holiday. it is unbelievable. melissa: you said they think they deserve a bailout. what makes you think that they feel? >> detroit city councill3 woman came on national tv and said, president obama, we all voted for you. it is time to bring the bacon. bail us out. that's outrage just. that folks think they can just spend money like no tomorrow and expect anybody else to bail them out. my constituents from mid michigan are saying no bailout. they need to fix the city theirselves. melissa: this is something going on all across the country. it is why we take so much interest in this. we've seen counties or cities at least going bankrupt elsewhere around the country. you see whole states. i worry
we're joined by michigan senator rick jones. thanks for joining me, senator, do yoo think if they dot latest layoffs will it satisfy the milestones the city needs in order to get more state aid? >> it is gooddstart and but not enough. we have a city council totally dysfunctional. recently mayor bing asked them to come in, they said we're on holiday. it is unbelievable. melissa: you said they think they deserve a bailout. what makes you think that they feel? >> detroit city councill3...
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it's about the foworkers of michigan. they work hard to provide for their families and grow our great state. it's clear they are focused on politics. we're focused on the hard-working men and women who make our state so great. >> what i gather from news reports -- tell me if this isn't right. the teachers union is boycotting and starting to close schools tomorrow in protest. that sort of thing happens, they ought to get fired. first of all, is it true? are they going to boycott school days and hurt the kids? >> we are seeing kids closed because teachers are calling in. it's unfortunate. they need to put kids first. we need to put our future first. that's what the law does. if we get to the debate on the issue, we're asking to give workers the choice so they can make the decision about which organizations they want to join and which they don't want to join. unfortunately a lot of politics get drug in. the issue gets put aside. unfortunately politics demonstrates -- just takes over the issue. we're not going to let it happe
it's about the foworkers of michigan. they work hard to provide for their families and grow our great state. it's clear they are focused on politics. we're focused on the hard-working men and women who make our state so great. >> what i gather from news reports -- tell me if this isn't right. the teachers union is boycotting and starting to close schools tomorrow in protest. that sort of thing happens, they ought to get fired. first of all, is it true? are they going to boycott school...
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michigan could pass a bill to make it the nation's latest right to work state. the state is bracing for a day of huge protests. in fact, two days of it. "news nation" starts in three. than that though, there's a kick to it. wahlalalalallala! smooth, but crisp. it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills.
michigan could pass a bill to make it the nation's latest right to work state. the state is bracing for a day of huge protests. in fact, two days of it. "news nation" starts in three. than that though, there's a kick to it. wahlalalalallala! smooth, but crisp. it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day...
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msnbc goes under cover with michigan's human trafficking task force for a sobering look at the overwhelming power of drug addiction in the business of sex for sale. >> i thought that i could just do it once and stop. >> it's a growing epidemic that can touch anyone, even the all american girl next door. >> this is going to sound crazy, but it's not that hard to go from using drugs from point a to point b of selling yourself. how will you get that much daily when your addiction is out of control and you're using so much of it. how will you get that money every day? ♪ >> it's a saturday night in detroit, and the city is jumping. the local economy is finally on the rebound, and people are out on the streets again looking to celebrate and have a good time. to some, that means buying a woman for sex. >> hey, it's sanchez. >> state trooper richard sanchez is part of the michigan human trafficking task force. >> they say my girl is walking the track wearing blue jeans and a black coat, and she goes by honey. >> they combine federal and state local investigators to combat the growing under ground
msnbc goes under cover with michigan's human trafficking task force for a sobering look at the overwhelming power of drug addiction in the business of sex for sale. >> i thought that i could just do it once and stop. >> it's a growing epidemic that can touch anyone, even the all american girl next door. >> this is going to sound crazy, but it's not that hard to go from using drugs from point a to point b of selling yourself. how will you get that much daily when your addiction...
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michigan. massive crowds gathering at the state capitol. they're protesting the state's right to work law. the lawmakers set to cast the final votes inside that building this morning. we understand the governor is very ready to sign that into law. very controversial situation going on live in lansing. good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you are here in america's nice room. >> i'm gregg jarrett in for bill gregg: the right to work vote will mean unions will no longer force workers to pay dues. that the birthplace of the powerful united auto workers union. martha: this has huge national implications over the power of organized labor. governor rick snyder believes there will be more job. he believes the protests hurt more than they help. here he is. >> if you go forward you will create a environment involving labor issues this could rise to the lebl level where i might not keep it off my agenda. i'm not happy about being in this situation. >> he has the responsibility as our leader avoi
michigan. massive crowds gathering at the state capitol. they're protesting the state's right to work law. the lawmakers set to cast the final votes inside that building this morning. we understand the governor is very ready to sign that into law. very controversial situation going on live in lansing. good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you are here in america's nice room. >> i'm gregg jarrett in for bill gregg: the right to work vote will mean unions will no longer force...
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we'll be all over southeast michigan. the difference is today we're actually going to be going from hotel to hotel. >> undercover officer is at the mercy of the prostitutes to determine where and when the meet takes place and causes these operations to move quickly. >> because we're going into the unknown we'll have emergency planning in case something happens. we'll make sure everyone is vested up so we're taking those precautions to make sure that we have safety out there for our officers. >> don't recognize her. she's new. >> once again, detectives comb the online ads, looking for possible juveniles. >> she's put up more pictures. >> the undercover makes contact with a very young looking woman going by the name mercedes. >> says she was 18 years old and that she was willing to do new lap dancing but no sex or [ bleep ]. i responded back, would she be willing to do a hand job. she said she would be. right now we're texting back and forth. i asked if she's willing to do a car date. she's responding back. >> mercedes agre
we'll be all over southeast michigan. the difference is today we're actually going to be going from hotel to hotel. >> undercover officer is at the mercy of the prostitutes to determine where and when the meet takes place and causes these operations to move quickly. >> because we're going into the unknown we'll have emergency planning in case something happens. we'll make sure everyone is vested up so we're taking those precautions to make sure that we have safety out there for our...
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congressman from michigan mark shower who served in the michigan state legislature for 12 years. thank you both for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> my pleasure. >> eliot: mark, let me begin with you. how could this happen in michigan? this is the bluest state we get. union movement has deep roots a deep history. what explains the dynamic that suddenly a right-to-work law a label i reject, how could this law pass in michigan? >> the irony is yesterday chrysler announced $120 million investment in michigan. 115 new jobs. michigan has helped lead the economic comeback for this country in part because of historic collective bargaining agreements between the detroit three and the united autoworkers. we have a labor management partnership that works. this, as you said was about politics. it was about gutting organized labor and the irony is i work for a labor management fund connected with a laborer's union and we invest almost $5 million a year in apprenticeship and training programs. we operate skilled workers to build complicated infrastructure projects like the governor wants to
congressman from michigan mark shower who served in the michigan state legislature for 12 years. thank you both for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> my pleasure. >> eliot: mark, let me begin with you. how could this happen in michigan? this is the bluest state we get. union movement has deep roots a deep history. what explains the dynamic that suddenly a right-to-work law a label i reject, how could this law pass in michigan? >> the irony is yesterday chrysler announced...
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tonight the fight rages on in michigan. the new front line for the battle for worker's rights in this country. the uaw is founded there, but republican lawmakers are now threatening to cripple it there. this is pure and simple union busting. these right to work laws have already had serious impacts across the country. wages for all workers, unionized and otherwise have decreased an average of $1,500 a year and workers are less likely to get health insurance or pensions. during the campaign any president voiced strong support the unions but as we know campaigning a very different from governing. things didn't look too promising this morning. so let's let the president speak for himself on this one. here he is in red ford, michigan late this afternoon. >> obama: what we shouldn't be doing is taking away your rights to bargain for better wages. these so-called right to work laws have everything to do with politics. >> nice work mr. president, reelection beginning to look good on you. and michigan's workers are forging ahead. t
tonight the fight rages on in michigan. the new front line for the battle for worker's rights in this country. the uaw is founded there, but republican lawmakers are now threatening to cripple it there. this is pure and simple union busting. these right to work laws have already had serious impacts across the country. wages for all workers, unionized and otherwise have decreased an average of $1,500 a year and workers are less likely to get health insurance or pensions. during the campaign any...
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is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at the top of his agenda. he had the budget deficit situation, the job killing tax he tried to get fix, but saw the results in indiana when governor mitch daniels made indiana a right to work state. is that what michigan is looking to, to try to figure out how to jump-start this economy that's lagged at 18.9% unemployment rate? it's too much to bear for workers there. >> governor snyder has been consistent from the beginning that it wasn't on his agenda yet, but he's been successful at leading us through dramatic changes in michigan. we are the comeback state, but now with the data that we've received from the blessings of having to work through proposal two, it's clear that they want us to become
is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at the top of his agenda. he had the budget deficit situation, the job killing tax he tried to get fix, but saw the results in indiana when governor mitch daniels made...
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alisyn: a central michigan university student could face 15 years in jail for allegedly poisoning her roommate. investigators say 19-year-old kay louisiana confessed to putting bleach in her roommate's tea after they argued about dirty dishes last month. the victim was treated at a local hospital and released. she is charged with felony poisoning and pleaded not guilty at wednesday apartment's arraignment. the preliminary hearing is set for next week. >> put your light on it. [growling ] >> it's a snow leopard. let me call it in. alisyn: that is a clip from natgeo's wild snow leopard of afghanistan. the show's cameras going into the middle of a war zone and following a man on a successful mission to track down and capture one of the most illusive big cats on earth. this show heirs this sunday. joining me live is boon smith the big cat wrangler featured on nat geo snow leopards of afghanistan. if you heard my voice crack it's because you brought a friend into the studio who is making me a little nervous. who do you have here. >> a five-month-old bengal tiger. alisyn: sure. >> his name
alisyn: a central michigan university student could face 15 years in jail for allegedly poisoning her roommate. investigators say 19-year-old kay louisiana confessed to putting bleach in her roommate's tea after they argued about dirty dishes last month. the victim was treated at a local hospital and released. she is charged with felony poisoning and pleaded not guilty at wednesday apartment's arraignment. the preliminary hearing is set for next week. >> put your light on it. [growling ]...
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. >> brenda: well, jonas, didn't michigan, didn't detroit already get a bailout. >> yes, it was called the auto bailout. and before the election, unformer. two admistrations that d that. everyone wants a bailout and the president's going to get your votes one way or the other. question is coming up more broadly, right now new jersey and an other of states getting a huge one bause it was a cast catastrophe. >> and if it's beyond your control and-- >> the case is we ved for you, we get bailout. >> and on the other side, detroit is in a mui-decade collapse that is beyond the scope, it's almt like a hurricane. and i'm not saying it's totally iane for nem to get a disproportionate amount-- >> gary b, you live in maryland, should you and maryland be paying for what detroit or michigan is deciding to do with unions and pensions and how they got themselves in this mess in t first ace? >> exactly, brenda. i kind of agree with jonas. i'm not sure i'd be so quick bail out cities with national catastrophes. they decided to live there and build there. but jonas it right, a lot of tiesike detroit ar
. >> brenda: well, jonas, didn't michigan, didn't detroit already get a bailout. >> yes, it was called the auto bailout. and before the election, unformer. two admistrations that d that. everyone wants a bailout and the president's going to get your votes one way or the other. question is coming up more broadly, right now new jersey and an other of states getting a huge one bause it was a cast catastrophe. >> and if it's beyond your control and-- >> the case is we ved...
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we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at most of those jobs aren't going to be unionized and they are going to be good paying jobs. this is all about more and better jobs and good paying jobs. it's going to work in michigan. >> bill: i have got to ask you about detroit which is a city on the verge of collapse. we think mayor dave bing is a good guy. maybe i'm wrong. i don't follow it that closely. detroit has no money. can't pay its bills. who is going to bail out detroit or is the whole structure going to collapse. >> there is not going to be a bailout of detroit in terms of state resources. as a practical matter what the real issue is is
we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at...
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what is the future in michigan? how do we fight back in michigan? >> well, we continue to fight, reverend. and, you know, we had demonstrators, we had thousands of people here on the capitol steps today fighting against right to work. we had women here demanding that they have the right to privacy, the right to choose. and that's what we need to continue to do. we are a democracy. and a democracy is a government based on representation. we have elected officials here who are not representing the people that elected them. and that's a real problem. we need to hold them accountable. we didn't take up the bills today in the house, but i have a feeling we're going to be taking up some of these bills tomorrow. and we need to be very vocal, and as i said we need to hold people accountable. these representatives just as you heard, they're not going around saying this is my agenda. it's i believe in small government. well, you know, telling a woman what she can and cannot do with her body is not small government. they talk about jobs. this house bill 5711 w
what is the future in michigan? how do we fight back in michigan? >> well, we continue to fight, reverend. and, you know, we had demonstrators, we had thousands of people here on the capitol steps today fighting against right to work. we had women here demanding that they have the right to privacy, the right to choose. and that's what we need to continue to do. we are a democracy. and a democracy is a government based on representation. we have elected officials here who are not...
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unions in michigan, they done a lot of great things. we are the center of the labor movement going back the last century. in the 20's and 30's and 40's they helped with working conditions, and wages and people chose to join a union. >>neil: what does this legislation do? it doesn't compel you not to be if a union but gives you the choice. >>guest: people used to choose to join a union and no i don't believe it is appropriate to say just to keep your job you have to pay dues and be a member. so, this creates an environment where people can say, they are choosing to join a union because the unions put a value proposition to make it worthwhile and if they are not providing value someone should be forced to choose so i view this as pro worker legislation. >>neil: governor, this woman's remarks went viral soon after she said them, a council woman in detroit talking about the post obama election envice president, i am sure you are familiar, but if you are not, please respond to this. >> after the election of jimmy carter, we had young and he
unions in michigan, they done a lot of great things. we are the center of the labor movement going back the last century. in the 20's and 30's and 40's they helped with working conditions, and wages and people chose to join a union. >>neil: what does this legislation do? it doesn't compel you not to be if a union but gives you the choice. >>guest: people used to choose to join a union and no i don't believe it is appropriate to say just to keep your job you have to pay dues and be a...
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it is starting to pick up in michigan. we just need a little bit more time in order to get our financial house in order. in order to grow our economy. gerri: i have heard that before. we need more time to get our fiscal house in order. wouldn't it make more sense? i know that you are probably playing all kinds of different groups. all kinds of different political groups who want to have their voice heard. wouldn't it make more sense to come in and have the state on this thing -- the thing that we will fix this thing and get it done. >> unfortunately, they can't unilaterally change them. so the financial emergency manager coming into detroit, setting us back a year. we just need to have the political will make these decisions and get it done. we have the political will to get it done. i don't want to sound like a broken record, but it is as simple as that. an emergency manager can do anymore than what we are doing right now with the tools that would be available to them. gerri: what was the first that they think you need to
it is starting to pick up in michigan. we just need a little bit more time in order to get our financial house in order. in order to grow our economy. gerri: i have heard that before. we need more time to get our fiscal house in order. wouldn't it make more sense? i know that you are probably playing all kinds of different groups. all kinds of different political groups who want to have their voice heard. wouldn't it make more sense to come in and have the state on this thing -- the thing that...
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i'm fascinated, also, by the politics of this within michigan and when's happening in michigan because this law which, you know, the final vote in the legislature will be tomorrow and the expectation is the republican governor will sign it and changes the political culture and just the working culture of michigan. talk about the right to work laws used to be just south carolina, used to be the old confederacy. to have it spread to the rust belt is dramatic. the story is governor rick snyder, republican governor, hard to believe now but when he was elected he was celebrated by the national media as the anti-tea party republican. campaign as a nerd, not so much ideological. he wasn't going to do the kinds of things in michigan that john kay sich was doing in ohio and the turning point when labor in michigan tried to put a constitutional amendment -- put a constitutional amendment on the ballot out there he took as an affront and he snider in response is receptive to this legislation but i think what's interesting to watch here just quickly in the next day is this. a group of democratic c
i'm fascinated, also, by the politics of this within michigan and when's happening in michigan because this law which, you know, the final vote in the legislature will be tomorrow and the expectation is the republican governor will sign it and changes the political culture and just the working culture of michigan. talk about the right to work laws used to be just south carolina, used to be the old confederacy. to have it spread to the rust belt is dramatic. the story is governor rick snyder,...
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michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because th
michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of...
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tonight are marc harrold vince colonies and there are indeed alexander bullock let's get back to it michigan is developing a reputation as the most anti-democratic as in small d democratic state in the nation following the passage of right to work for less legislation this week the law was passed undemocratically by surprise like both here it is through pressure from corporate corporate oligarchy as u.a.w. president bob king said in the end that divide us and the extreme right wing control what's going on in this state and the koch brothers americans for prosperity was in there and it was a lot of money pushing for the passage of this legislation threatening the governor and threatening to defer presenting his past as part of a big budget appropriations bill that you're more difficult for voters to repeal and the republican lawmakers in the state legislature passed that also passed a law making it harder to recall elected officials cutting down the numbers of days to collect signatures so i want to start with you. this is your own state sure and mine although i haven't lived there in a while
tonight are marc harrold vince colonies and there are indeed alexander bullock let's get back to it michigan is developing a reputation as the most anti-democratic as in small d democratic state in the nation following the passage of right to work for less legislation this week the law was passed undemocratically by surprise like both here it is through pressure from corporate corporate oligarchy as u.a.w. president bob king said in the end that divide us and the extreme right wing control...
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we'll be examining tonight what's happening in michigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayers blind." mallory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egyptian military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the dictatorial powers he assumed which have spurred violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that america's time as the lone superpower is nearing an end. former director of national intelligence john negro panty joins us to talk about our future as a superpower and the challenges that we'll surely face. we begin tonight with one of the few scheduling misadventures of president obama's swire tenure in -- entire tenure in office. the president speaking to autoworkers outside detroit today, a day before governor snyder will sign michigan's newly-passed right-to-work law into effect. the president standing firmly with the unions that worked hard to get him reelected. >> what we shouldn't
we'll be examining tonight what's happening in michigan and in washington, d.c. with the author of "shadow bosses: how government. employee unions control america and rob taxpayers blind." mallory factor joins us. also tonight, egypt's president, muhammad morsi, ordering the egyptian military to arrest people in the street even as he claimed to have rescinded the dictatorial powers he assumed which have spurred violent demonstrations. and a new intelligence report concludes that...